18:50 < Shane^> Why does the radeon driver spins glxgears just fine, but
		screws ups 
                wolfenstein while r200 hangs glxgear but starts wolf just
		fine, intill 
                i crashes bad. ( radeon 8500LE /debian testing/X4.2.0)
22:14 < Russ|werk> Shane^: maybe agp issues?
22:28 < Shane^> Russ|werk: well...
22:28 < Shane^> it also busted mplayer, but thats an other issue
22:29 < Russ|werk> ya, xv doesn't work
22:29 < Russ|werk> gatos and dri need to be merged
22:33 < Shane^> hmmm, any ideas when they'll do that?
22:35 < Russ|werk> dunno
22:35 < Russ|werk> but your lockups might be agp related
22:35 < Shane^> mm
22:48 < Shane^> arg, I realy regret bying this hercules card...
22:48 < Shane^> http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~shane/dokumentasjon/hercules.txt
22:52 < Russ|werk> so?
22:52 < Russ|werk> you are supported
22:52 < Russ|werk> here
22:53 < Russ|werk> you have downloaded the r200 snapshot from dri.sf.net,
		correct?
22:53 < Shane^> yes
22:53 < Shane^> installed it successfully as well
22:53 < Shane^> but...
22:53 -!- Mithrandir [~tfheen@beta.hardware.no] has joined #dri
22:53 < Russ|werk> but what?
22:53 < Shane^> hello Mith
22:54 < Mithrandir> hi Shane^ 
22:54 < Shane^> it crashes X in a bad way, no dmsg either... Since I don't
		have a 
                consoll I just have to hit the button
22:55 < Mithrandir> ssh into the system and strace it, logging to another
		box?
22:55 < Mithrandir> race condition, but you might be able to win. :)
22:55 < Shane^> hmmm, good idea
22:59 < Russ|werk> maybe try agp2x?
22:59 < Russ|werk> I play q3a all the time on my asus kt333 w/radeon 8500
23:05 < Shane^> Mithrandir: nothing....
23:05 < Mithrandir> Shane^: hmm, try Russ|werk's suggestion?
23:05 < Shane^> can't find anything wrong intil it looses connections
23:06 < Shane^> hmmm, I'll try anything soon...
23:06 < Russ|werk> you can't ssh in then?
23:06 < Russ|werk> the only real way to debug that in probaly kgdb over a
		serial line
23:07 < Shane^> looks like it's the kernel who freez, 
23:07 < Shane^> not X
23:07 < Shane^> I put it on ping from another box as well you see
23:10 < Russ|werk> if you want to really get into it and break in with
		kgdb, you can do 
                   that
23:11 < Shane^> reboot, switch kernel