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From: owner-gtf-talk@more.net on behalf of Melissa Whalen

Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:08:35 -0600

Subject: Re: new subcriber

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>From: "Mark Turner" 
>Message-Id: 
>To: gtf-talk@more.net
>Subject: RE: new subcriber
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>With reference to Jason's experience in the tournament he entered.   
>Unfortunately this type of behaviour seems to be creeping more and more into 
>the GTF.
>
>I too joined GTF as I was assured that the type of Taekwon-do practiced was 
>"Light Contact".
>
>The first tournament I entered  (as a Yellow Belt) was quite a shock to the 
>system.  My opponent was constantly using excessive contact and at the end
of 
>the bout I could not see out of my left eye and my mouth was badly cut and 
>swollen.
>The only warning my opponent got was for "Light Contact" when he punched me 
>full in the face whilst he was outside the ring !!  This particular
competitor 
>was from a club who had transferred to GTF from a rival organisation.
>
>The last tournament held here in Scotland was an Open tournament and a
number 
>of ITF competitors entered.  Some of the sparring was disgraceful. Some GTF 
>competitors were knocked unconscious by blatant full blooded punches.  The 
>concern now is that a lot of vendettas are being carried forward to the next 
>"Open" tournament.
>
>It is disappointing that this kind of behaviour is creeping into a sport
that 
>is widely supported by children and adults of all ages.  The majority of 
>competitors who go to the tournaments treat them as they are meant to be -
fun 
>and enjoyment and a chance to show off your skills and to learn from the 
>knowledge of others.  Many children stay behind at the tournaments to watch 
>the adults compete.  It is rather concerning that many of these children
(and 
>their parents) are witnessing some of the behaviours being demonstrated by 
>competitors who will literally do anything to win. I have had parents make 
>comments to me such as "this is getting a bit rough isn't it?"  This is 
>worrying as who is to say that they won't stop their children from 
>participating.
>
>I firmly believe that the people who overstep the mark and use excessive
force 
>should receive lengthy bans from all tournaments.  But for this to happen,
the 
>referees must be stronger and must start disqualifying these people
instead of 
>letting them get away with it.
>
>I would welcome anyone else's thoughts on this matter.
>
>Mark Turner
>2nd Gup
>
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>From: 	owner-gtf-talk@more.net on behalf of Melissa Whalen
>Sent: 	27 October 1997 15:29
>To: 	gtf-talk@more.net
>Subject: 	Re: new subcriber
>
>>I joined the GTF because it is a large respectable world wide organisation.
>>Surely this sort of thing just reduces it to a back street kick boxing
>>farce...
>
>
>Have you discussed your concerns with your instructor?  He or she should be
>able to answer any questions and help you work through this experience.
>
>I have been competing in martial arts tournaments (ITF, GTF, and open style
>tournaments) for approx. 12 years and have rarely witnessed, much less
>experienced, this level of violence in a tournament.  
>
>I'm sure there are very physical tournaments out there, but I check with my
>instructor and seniors before attending a tournament and have a senior,
>team member, or knowledgable friend at my ring when I fight to coach me and
>keep an eye on things.
>
>TKD is a contact sport, sometimes a ring will get a bit "physcal" and
>accidents or excessive violence have been know to happen, but overall this
>is an exception rather than a rule at GTF sponsored tournaments.  
>
>I would suggest that you might attend some other GTF sponsered tournaments
>as a spectator or a ring volunteer (timekeeper or scorekeeper) to get
>another view of the level of contact in the sport.  Please do not base your
>judgement of the GTF on one incident - granted it does sound as if it was a
>bit extreme.
>
>
>Melissa
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